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More deep sleep with alcohol? (fluke?)

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I have been using zeo for a few weeks now, and gradually increasing my total sleep, but one area I would like to improve is deep sleep (I have read the article where it says "rule 1 is don't talk about deep sleep..."

That being said I understand that - avoiding caffeine esp late in the day, avoiding alcohol at least 3 hrs before bed, and gettin exercise should all increase deep sleep.

Why Booze Really Trashes Your Sleep

 

This post from the Hypnagogia blog is part of our Featured Blogger initiative.  In this entry, they discuss how alcohol consumption lead to an increase of their sleep apnea index (AHI) and a decrease in sleep quality.

 

A nightcap helps you sleep, right?

Well, yes...but not in the way you think it does.  In fact, it often makes things worse.

During my initial explorations with the flow-meter, I thought that I'd test my set-up by trying to INCREASE my AHI using a well known substance that makes sleep apnea worse:  Alcohol.

A sleep experiment where I get to have a drink or three... it's tough, but I'll do it for science. 


Alcohol Increases Your Risk of Sleep Apnea

Pretty much as it does with people, alcohol relaxes the muscles in the airways making them more prone to flopping around all over the place and causing an obstruction.
 
When it comes to the rest of the practices, gadgets, fads and ideas that I'll be exploring I'll be testing them for 5 days in a row each. To be honest I'm not going to do that with alcohol as I can't afford a week of waking up sluggish and groggy. 

So, what I did was to take 5 non-consecutive days instead. I consumed alcohol and recorded my AHI on those nights along with my 5 day no-alcohol mean AHI for comparison.

Pretty conclusive.

Alcohol increased the number of times that I either stopped breathing or breathed so little that it was ineffective.  Not only that, but it did it in quite a startling way.

It took my 5 day mean AHI from 6.95 to 12.2.(max 15.3) To get that into perspective, that's nearly double the number of times PER HOUR that I had breathing problems. As discussed in this post, I went from just scraping in with a diagnosis of "Mild Obstructive Sleep Apnea" to being firmly in the category!
 
Surely there was something positive to salvage from this bad news?

Yes.

In my mind alcohol helped me to get to sleep and I found that the Zeo data backed that up.

Again, using a 5 day mean value, my time to sleep onset (or Zeo's "Time to Z") went from 28 minutes without alcohol down to 9 with alcohol. That seemed to be the only significant difference in the data, so I haven't bothered to clutter the page with other measurements.


It may help you to get to sleep, but the chances are that the sleep will not be good sleep. The chances are that it will be disturbed sleep, the chances of having to go to the bathroom will increase, as will the likelihood of dehydration-related headaches and fragmented sleep towards the morning.

Not only would I wake up feeling slow and mildly hungover, but I'd be tired from being woken up up to 15 times an hour through apneas.

Don't misunderstand me, this isn't one of those damning posts about alcohol, but it is something to bear in mind if you already suffer with sleep apnea, and it may even cause mild apnoea in people who don't have it. 

Will I continue to drink alcohol? Of course, and that's the dilemma. So I guess the answer is "everything in moderation."


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Tips for Minimizing Alcohol's Negative Effects on Sleep

Although alcohol sometimes helps to induce sleep, it actually prevents you from getting a full night’s rest. And its effects last longer than you might think. Drinking in the afternoon can interfere with your sleep that night. Moderation and timing are keys to minimizing the sleep-robbing effects of alcohol. Here are some tips for minimizing alcohol’s negative effects on sleep.

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The Wonders of Restorative Sleep


It's no accident that we spend a third of our lives asleep. Like the rest of the animal kingdom, we humans need sleep for our overall health and well-being. Restorative Sleep is particularly important during our nights of sleep.

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Are night owls more intelligent than others?

 

The difference appears to be a biological trait hard-wired into the brain. Night owls tend to reach their height of intelligence and creativity later in the day than larks due to a resistance to sleep pressure. While larks peak early and lose cognitive performance as the day wanes on, night owls start off slow and pick up speed.

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Can Sleep Apnea Cause Strokes?

 

Yes, unfortunately.  The effects of sleep apnea can cause a noticable increase in one's risk for stroke

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Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for insomnia

Insomnia, simply put,  is a complaint of a difficulty falling asleep, staying asleep, or non-restorative sleep that has daytime consequences.

In the medical community, insomnia disorders are divided into those that don't seem to be associated with other medical, psychiatric or other sleep problems - that's called "primary insomnia" - from insomnia that's accompanied by a medical problem, a psychiatric problems, or other sleep problem and we call that "co-morbid insomnia".

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7 Ways to Improve Your Sleep Tonight

 

Be honest: How many times have you had that extra drink at night or that soda in the afternoon?

Didn’t get that walk in like you said you would? Suffered though a night of pain instead of talking with your doctor to help find a solution?

We’ve all done these things more than we’d like to admit–but hey, what’s the worse that could happen?

You will screw with your sleep, that’s what.

You’ll deprive your body of its necessary building blocks and guarantee that it will under-perform.

The worse part is that you’ll think this is normal. Like being drunk, you won’t even recognize it until it’s too late.

To help you out, I’m going to share with you 7 things that you can to today to sleep better tonight. I’m going to give you actual sleep data and resources to show you how effective these tips are. And I’m going to encourage you the whole way through.

A little change goes a long way, especially in the sleep department.

Ready? Let’s go.

 

7 Steps to Sleep Fitness

 

1. Skip the caffeine. You think you can’t feel it? That you fall asleep just fine at night after that afternoon soda? Think again. Caffeine six hours out was as disruptive or more so than caffeine 3 hours before bedtime–especially compared to no caffeine whatsoever.

Drake C, Kick, A Roth T. The effects of caffeine given 0, 3, or 6 hours before bedtime on objective sleep parameters measured in the home. Sleep 2010;33 (Suppl.):A107. Abstract 0306.

2. Quit Drinking after dinner. There’s a reason why your doc says not to have more than 2 drinks/day. This stuff really screws you up on many levels, and your sleep (like your liver) takes a big hit.

As the the drinks go up, the Deep sleep comes down,  The REM takes a beating, ... ...& and Andi@Zeo's ZQ drops by 10 points. Ouch.

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How the Other Person Sleeps

This story comes from Seth Roberts, a professor of psychology at Tsinghua University in Beijing and a self-tracking champ. Recently, Seth went to a Quantified Self Meet-Up, saw a presentation by a Zeo user, and wrote this post as a result.  He blogs about his and others' experiments at blog.sethroberts.net 

 

Christine Peterson's poster of her Zeo research (download poster) was one of the highlights of the QS conference for me, as I said in an earlier post:

She measured her sleep with a Zeo for three months. Her poster showed how various things, such as caffeine consumption, correlated with sleep measurements, such as REM time. I believe the most important Zeo measurement is how long you are awake during the night. ... Christine's data showed a strong correlation between her score on Zeo's Sleep Stealer's index (...) and how long she was awake at night. With a high score, she was awake twice as long (about 1.5 hours) as with a low score.

Here's why.

The correlation between Sleep Stealer score and time awake.

When her Sleep Stealer score was 5 or less, she was awake about an hour during the night.

When her score was more than 5, she was awake about two hours - a big difference. There should be a big difference, but you could fail to see it for a thousand reasons. The large difference is a validation of the whole thing - above all, an indication that her Zeo is working correctly.

                                                          C Peterson - Total Z v Sleep Stealers                        

Even when her Sleep Stealer score is low, she is awake a long time.

This means there are major determinants of sleep depth not captured by the Sleep Stealer score. With the right Sleep Stealer score - assuming the correlation reflects cause and effect - she can improve from two hours to one hour (one hour difference) but that leaves one hour. This implies that the determinants of time awake not in the Sleep Stealer score are just as important as those that it contains.

Even when she is at the best level of important factors, she is awake a long time.

When she had no drinks, she was awake 56 minutes/night.  When other people didn't disrupt her sleep at all, she was awake 54 minutes/night. C Peterson -Time in Wake v Alcohol

C Peterson - Time in Wake v Disruption

The average wake time for women 50-59 is half an hour.

That's a lot of lost time, day after day, night after night. Note however that the data is from Zeo users, who may have worse sleep than average.  (Editor's note: see What's Your ZQ for more information about Zeo users' sleep quality)                                                                                              

It only took three months to collect the data.

This isn't on the poster. Yet this is a solid contribution, in the sense that I learned from it. With perhaps nine months of data and better data analysis, it might be publishable.

The main point such a paper would presumably make is that even when you do everything right (Sleep Stealer score = 0) you're still awake a lot. This point is nowhere in the sleep literature.

Seth's advice for better sleep

Christine, if you would like to sleep better I suggest:

  1. Don't eat breakfast until at least three hours after you wake up.
  2. Get at least one hour of sunlight early in the morning - e.g., 6 to 7 am. You can do this by working outside.  (I work outside several hours every morning.)
  3. Stand on one leg to exhaustion four or more times per day. (I do it six times/day.) You can do this while reading - it should not reduce your free time.

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